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Hi Greg and others,
Gregory Leblanc <GLeblanc@cu-portland.edu> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pal Domokos [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> > Perhaps I was not precise enough here. Give me another chance
> > to explain it:
> > HOWTOs are about how to do something on Linux. It is possible
> > (and, in some
> > cases, absolutely sure) that a certain task can be
> > accomplished more quickly,
> > or more
> > easily, or more anything on a different OS, say Windows.
> > However, a Linux
> > HOWTO
> > will only cover the topic on Linux. Windows users will not
> > turn to a Linux
> > HOWTO if they have a problem.
> > The HOWTO-HOWTO is also a HOWTO, although a special one. It
> > is not about
> > "sharing the best information about" writing in DocBook. It
> > is Linux-oriented,
> > or,
> > if you like, Linux-biased.
> > This is what I meant by "we are doing Linux here".
> > Is this provincialism?
> Actually, a great deal of the HOWTOs are not Linux specific, they tell you
> how to do something under linux. For example, about 80% of the CD-Writing
> HOWTO is NOT specific to linux. The only pieces that are specific to linux
> are the ones on how to compile the kernel. Everything else works on any
> Unix-like system. If this HOWTO was to cover ONLY the linux portions,
> nobody would be able to figure anything out from the HOWTO, as it would
> all of the general information.
Do you really think that was what I meant?
> The HOWTO-HOWTO is indeed a special HOWTO. I do NOT believe it should be
> about howto to write a HOWTO using linux tools, it should be about how to
> write a HOWTO covering some Linux topic. You tell them what tools are
> available, and how those tools rank it terms of features and ease of use.
> > A practical note: I do not quite see how to write about a
> > Linux theme while
> > using Windows. For me, it would involve rebooting the machine
> > every ten
> > minutes
> > or so.
> I can think of many occasions where this doesn't apply. I've got 4
> computers on or around my desk at home, one of them runs MS Windows,
> sometimes. If I was writing documentation about my S/linux machine, I
> easily do that on the windows machine, while I was looking at the SPARC
> to me. As a second example, how about what Gary did? Take an existing
> HOWTO who's topic you're familiar with, and re-write it, or make changes.
> You might not need to have access to your Linux machine to do that,
> depending on how often you work with that topic, and how familiar you are
> with it. There are other scenarios, but I think those are enough.
> Please, stop with the Holy War.
> > >>Things will definitely change when we move to XML: we will
> > have more tools.
> > >If wishes were horses, then beggars could ride.
> > Good to know.
> > What I meant was there are much more XML editors than SGML editors.
> Really? What about processing tools, and search engines? There are more,
> but they are largely untested with DocBook, since it's only been officially
> XML for a couple of weeks.
I still think we will have more tools when we move to XML.
I did not state it would happen tomorrow.
To the point: I realize that I made a mistake in assuming that the
"preferred" OS of all LDP authors was Linux. Really, I do not know
why I thought that: it simply seemed obvious to me. Well, it does not
As to the "Holy War": it surprises me that you label my posts as such.
I suppose you know why you do.
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